PHi2003 Free will and determinism, Hobbes and ships

I spoke about Hobbes and free will and it was rightly pointed out that there is a quotation which goes against my interpretations. I do believe, given Hobbes’ explicit materialism that he must, in the final analysis, be not just a compatibilist but a determinist: “that which is not subject to motion is not to subject to impediment.”  However…

At the beginning of ch. 21 when Hobbes is describing the liberty of subjects (and here he means those subject to the power of a sovereign but there are echoes of the subject as an individual), he uses a variety of metaphors and cases to describe this liberty. Here are the first few paragraphs from that chapter:

LIBERTY, or freedom, signifieth properly the absence of opposition (by opposition, I mean external impediments of motion); and may be applied no less to irrational and inanimate creatures than to rational. For whatsoever is so tied, or environed, as it cannot move but within a certain space, which space is determined by the opposition of some external body, we say it hath not liberty to go further. And so of all living creatures, whilst they are imprisoned, or restrained with walls or chains; and of the water whilst it is kept in by banks or vessels that otherwise would spread itself into a larger space; we use to say they are not at liberty to move in such manner as without those external impediments they would. But when the impediment of motion is in the constitution of the thing itself, we use not to say it wants the liberty, but the power, to move; as when a stone lieth still, or a man is fastened to his bed by sickness.

And according to this proper and generally received meaning of the word, a freeman is he that, in those things which by his strength and wit he is able to do, is not hindered to do what he has a will to. But when the words free and liberty are applied to anything but bodies, they are abused; for that which is not subject to motion is not to subject to impediment: and therefore, when it is said, for example, the way is free, no liberty of the way is signified, but of those that walk in it without stop. And when we say a gift is free, there is not meant any liberty of the gift, but of the giver, that was not bound by any law or covenant to give it. So when we speak freely, it is not the liberty of voice, or pronunciation, but of the man, whom no law hath obliged to speak otherwise than he did. Lastly, from the use of the words free will, no liberty can be inferred of the will, desire, or inclination, but the liberty of the man; which consisteth in this, that he finds no stop in doing what he has the will, desire, or inclination to do.

Fear and liberty are consistent: as when a man throweth his goods into the sea for fear the ship should sink, he doth it nevertheless very willingly, and may refuse to do it if he will; it is therefore the action of one that was free: so a man sometimes pays his debt, only for fear of imprisonment, which, because no body hindered him from detaining, was the action of a man at liberty. And generally all actions which men do in Commonwealths, for fear of the law, are actions which the doers had liberty to omit.

Liberty and necessity are consistent: as in the water that hath not only liberty, but a necessity of descending by the channel; so, likewise in the actions which men voluntarily do, which, because they proceed their will, proceed from liberty, and yet because every act of man’s will and every desire and inclination proceedeth from some cause, and that from another cause, in a continual chain (whose first link is in the hand of God, the first of all causes), proceed from necessity. So that to him that could see the connexion of those causes, the necessity of all men’s voluntary actions would appear manifest. And therefore God, that seeth and disposeth all things, seeth also that the liberty of man in doing what he will is accompanied with the necessity of doing that which God will and no more, nor less. For though men may do many things which God does not command, nor is therefore author of them; yet they can have no passion, nor appetite to anything, of which appetite God’s will is not the cause. And did not His will assure the necessity of man’s will, and consequently of all that on man’s will dependeth, the liberty of men would be a contradiction and impediment to the omnipotence and liberty of God. And this shall suffice, as to the matter in hand, of that natural liberty, which only is properly called liberty.

Now, I promised we would discuss this on Friday, but I now realize that it will be better placed as a tutorial when we talk about  rational egoism and Hobbes’ endeavours as motivations at greater depth as part of the rational egoism and moral science topic.  Liberty as the freedom to act on desire is always a possibility and a subject may have desires that are in contradiction of law or apparent self-preservation. But Hobbes, I believe, would say that such desires are uncommon and in error.

 

Think about this till then.

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  1. Dear all,

    We are now in a position to look at this quotation. I want you to remember that we have aims which are conscious (agential aims), but that these are wrong if they contradict our deep self-preservation drive (sub-agnential aim), of which we are largely unconscious. Try to answer these questions in relation to the above long quotation:

    3. Are your actions free or determined? If they are determined, what causes them? If they are free, how do you explain them?
    4. What role can necessity play in ethical arguments? Can it justify or merely explain actions of human beings? Are the following agents responsible for their actions? If so, why? If not, why not? (Think about the concept of responsibility.):
    a. a car slips on ice and kills a pedestrian;
    b. a child steals some sweets from a shop;
    c. a drunk drives home after the pub and accidentally kills a pedestrian;
    d. a kleptomaniac steals from a shop;
    e. a husband returns home and finds another man in bed with his wife – he kills them both then and there.
    5. Give a definition, in your own words, of what a right is and illustrate this with examples. Offer a definition of a law or an obligation and illustrate this with some basic, uncontroversial laws of our state. What is the relationship between a right and a law? Do we have a right to life without conditions?
    6. With reference to Leviathan ch 14, explain how Hobbes defines both right and law. How is it related to liberty as he understands it?
    7. What is, according to Hobbes, the right of nature? Does it sound familiar and is it perhaps better suited to a discipline other than moral philosophy? Why is this, would Hobbes say?
    8. Do you agree with Hobbes that this right of nature should be unrestricted? Is there a problem with the phrasing of the prior question?
    9. List Hobbes’s first three laws of nature. When do they apply to individuals?
    10. What, according to Hobbes, justifies moral laws?
    11. In what sense is the man in the ship free?

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