{"id":589,"date":"2019-10-23T13:07:24","date_gmt":"2019-10-23T12:07:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/?p=589"},"modified":"2019-10-23T13:07:25","modified_gmt":"2019-10-23T12:07:25","slug":"archival-document-depicting-a-theatre-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/2019\/10\/23\/archival-document-depicting-a-theatre-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"Archival document depicting a theatre debate"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/dormition_all_saints_1-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-596\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/dormition_all_saints_1-1.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/dormition_all_saints_1-1-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Archiver\u2019s Note:\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>This exchange was discovered in the archives of Dormition Cathedral, London, in 2019 and believed to have been performed during several sermons in\u00a0the late 1590s. The author is unknown; however, it is likely\u00a0that this exchange was written\u00a0by the\u00a0church\u00a0heads in order to\u00a0educate\u00a0the population on the immoralities of the theatre\u00a0and\u00a0to dissuade them from attending. Despite this, they were not able to prevent dwindling church\u00a0attendance and the dialogue was\u00a0never performed again.<\/em>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"560\" height=\"504\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/HRH-10.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-594\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/HRH-10.jpg 560w, https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/HRH-10-300x270.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Fool<\/em><em>.<\/em>&nbsp;What&nbsp;a glorious time to act upon the stage! Theatre&nbsp;doth&nbsp;grow in in&nbsp;popularity more and more each day.&nbsp;The rising&nbsp;men&nbsp;of about town are attending and it is attracting the attention of many&nbsp;a&nbsp;aristocrat. (Pollard, xii)&nbsp;The theatre has the power to change individuals just with words, that is some power that those actors hold and should not be ridiculed by the likes of you. The theatre has the power to enlighten and open minds as well as to teach.&nbsp;\u201cWhat coward to see his countryman valiant would not be ashamed of his own cowardice?\u201d (Heywood,&nbsp;221). The plays can teach the proper manners expected of our nobles&nbsp;and&nbsp;our countrymen, set examples for thine own followers.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Friar<\/em><em>.<\/em>&nbsp;Fool! How far thee have&nbsp;strayed from the arms of our Lord and&nbsp;saviour. Your blasphemous disregard towards our teachings, replaced with vile sins and vanities, has brought about&nbsp;thy own damnation! Tragedies encourage wrath, cruelty, incest, injury, murder either violent by sword, or voluntary by poison; the persons gods, goddesses, furies, fiends, kings, queens and mighty men!\u201d \u201cthe&nbsp;ground work&nbsp;of comedies is love, cozenage, flattery, bawdy, sly conveyance of whoredom; the persons, cooks, queans, knaves, bawds, parasites, courtesans, lecherous old men,&nbsp;amourous&nbsp;young men.\u201d&nbsp;(Gosson, 94).&nbsp;Thou&nbsp;must&nbsp;return&nbsp;to thy holy&nbsp;Father!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Fool<\/em><em>.&nbsp;<\/em>How can thou&nbsp;call it a sin when your own Lord hath never done,&nbsp;\u201cNeither Christ himself, nor any of his sanctified Apostles, in any of their sermons, acts, or documents, so much as named them, or upon any abusive occasion touched&nbsp;them.\u201d (Heywood,&nbsp;223).&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>T\u2019was&nbsp;your very own clergyman&nbsp;who hath engaged in this art. Many preachers have in fact written for the stage and have provided us with many moral lessons within them&nbsp;(Pollard, xvii). How can the likes of&nbsp;ye&nbsp;argue&nbsp;against the immorality of plays when you yourself hath written and acted&nbsp;for the&nbsp;masses.&nbsp;Even&nbsp;your&nbsp;Sunday sermons&nbsp;could&nbsp;be seen as&nbsp;a performance with the intent on teaching.&nbsp;Ye&nbsp;argue that we encourage the wrath and&nbsp;sins of mortals and that we perform \u201cthe work&nbsp;of the devil\u201d&nbsp;(Gosson, 84), why not then&nbsp;create your own work of&nbsp;God to&nbsp;counteract our&nbsp;deceitful act?&nbsp;\u201cSince God hath provided us of these pastimes, why may we not use them to his glory?\u201d&nbsp;(Heywood,&nbsp;224)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/istockphoto-1142874138-1024x1024-745x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-592\" width=\"163\" height=\"224\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/istockphoto-1142874138-1024x1024.jpg 745w, https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/istockphoto-1142874138-1024x1024-218x300.jpg 218w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 163px) 100vw, 163px\" \/><figcaption>The Fool appears in many plays from the Works of William Shakespeare. Vintage etching circa mid 19th century.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Friar<\/em><em>.<\/em>&nbsp;Plays&nbsp;may be used by the Lord&nbsp;to teach and to&nbsp;guide in the right hands, but these theaters&nbsp;are filled with the devil\u2019s very own&nbsp;lies and slander!&nbsp;\u201cThe proof is evident, the consequent is necessary, that in stage plays for a boy to put on the attire, the gesture, the passions of a woman; for a mean person to take upon him the title of a prince, with counterfeit port and train; is by outward signs to show themselves otherwise than they are\u201d (Gosson,&nbsp;102). There are&nbsp;no&nbsp;morals to be found&nbsp;in the bawdiness of theatre! \u201cHail the horse whose mischief hath been discovered by the prophets of the Lord&#8230;damnable, because we profess Christ, and set up the doctrine of the devil.\u201d (Gosson,&nbsp;89)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Fool.&nbsp;<\/em>The&nbsp;theatre hath been used to perform the very truthful acts of mortals.&nbsp;\u201cPlays hath taught the unlearned the knowledge of many famous histories\u201d (Heywood,&nbsp;241).&nbsp;The histories of our country hath been depicted on these very floors to&nbsp;inform and teach these good countrymen of their own past. The&nbsp;past&nbsp;itself hath believed our art to&nbsp;be one of taste. \u201cThus&nbsp;our antiquity we have brought from the Grecians in the time of Hercules; from the Macedonians in the age of Alexander; from the reigns of Romans long before Julius Caesar\u201d (Heywood&nbsp;246-247)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Friar<\/em><em>.<\/em>&nbsp;Thou&nbsp;thinkst&nbsp;that in the hands of&nbsp;fools&nbsp;knowledge will be used for the betterment of all?&nbsp;Dost&nbsp;thou proclaim that thou&nbsp;knowst&nbsp;better than thy Lord?&nbsp;\u201cThe devil, not contented with the number he hath corrupted with reading Italian bawdry, because all cannot read,&nbsp;presenteth&nbsp;us comedies cut by the same pattern\u201d (Gosson 90). What use is history, will it teach our&nbsp;youth to fear our God? Let the&nbsp;history rest in the past, the only thought&nbsp;tat&nbsp;is needed&nbsp;in the hands of peasants and fools is the fear of God!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/438px-Act_II_Scene_III.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-591\" width=\"129\" height=\"142\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/438px-Act_II_Scene_III.jpg 362w, https:\/\/blogs.ncl.ac.uk\/shakespeare\/files\/2019\/10\/438px-Act_II_Scene_III-274x300.jpg 274w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 129px) 100vw, 129px\" \/><figcaption>A depiction of Friar Lawrence from the Shakespeare&#8217;s famous play <em>&#8216;Romeo and Juliet&#8217;.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Fool<\/em><em>.<\/em>&nbsp;Hark! The gates of hell have opened! And yet, I cannot repent&nbsp;this addiction to&nbsp;the sin the&nbsp;theatre! I shall spend the rest of&nbsp;my days in the arms of&nbsp;sloth and lust. But, hark a second time! There is water arising from every corner of the world! God has brought upon us a second flood!&nbsp;Jesus, save us!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Friar<\/em><em>.<\/em>&nbsp;For&nbsp;shame!&nbsp;I pray&nbsp;for thee and thy sinful nature! God have mercy on thy soul,&nbsp;that&nbsp;you thee repent&nbsp;your&nbsp;Devil&nbsp;father. And&nbsp;I pray for this sheer&nbsp;crowd of a thousand&nbsp;sinners that flock to your feet, that&nbsp;they too repent and revoke this devil\u2019s&nbsp;work!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Fin.<\/em>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Omer, Ciara, Alfie D, Alfie P, Alice, Emma<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Bibliography:<\/strong>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pollard, Tanya<em>,&nbsp;<\/em>\u2018Introduction\u2019&nbsp;<em>in Shakespeare&#8217;s theater: A sourcebook<\/em>. (2003). Oxford: Blackwell.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><\/strong>Gosson, Stephen,&nbsp;\u2018Plays confuted in five acts\u2019&nbsp;(1582)&nbsp;in S<em>hakespeare&#8217;s theater: A sourcebook<\/em>. (2003). Oxford: Blackwell.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thomas Heywood, \u2018An Apology for Actors\u2019 (1612) in&nbsp;<em>S<\/em><em>hakespeare&#8217;s theater: A sourcebook<\/em>. (2003). Oxford: Blackwell.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Archiver\u2019s Note:\u00a0 This exchange was discovered in the archives of Dormition Cathedral, London, in 2019 and believed to have been performed during several sermons in\u00a0the late 1590s. The author is unknown; however, it is likely\u00a0that this exchange was written\u00a0by the\u00a0church\u00a0heads in order to\u00a0educate\u00a0the population on the immoralities of the theatre\u00a0and\u00a0to dissuade them from attending. 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